RE: [SQLDownUnder] SQL Server 2005 Express


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    • From: Brett Errington
    • Subject: RE: [SQLDownUnder] SQL Server 2005 Express
    • Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:41:35 +1100

    I was under the impression that commercial applications can be made with the
    Go-Live license that will be present in beta 2 of the express products.
    
    See:
    http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq/default.aspx
    
    Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition
    Q: Can I build and deploy applications using the Visual Web Developer 2005
    Express Edition Beta 1?
    A: No. During the Beta 1 timeframe we want customers to experiment, evaluate
    and learn with the tool, but sites cannot be used for any public or
    production purposes. At Beta 2 Microsoft will likely provide a "Go-live
    license" that will enable developers to put sites into production.
    
    
    I'm sure I've seen it mentioned elsewhere for other Express products as
    well.
    
    - Brett 
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: SQLDownUnderList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    [mailto:SQLDownUnderList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Low
    Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2005 9:26 AM
    To: SQLDownUnder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: [SQLDownUnder] SQL Server 2005 Express
    
    Welcome Kent, great to see you on the list.
    
    Yep, the great thing about the SQL Express product is they keep using
    the word "free" as in free to obtain and free to deploy. I would expect
    the other Express products to cost something to obtain and while you
    certainly can't do anything commercial or redistribute apps with the VB
    or C# Express beta products, it wouldn't surprise me if you were able to
    do so with the RTM version that "costs". I've heard strong opinions both
    ways on that. We'll have to wait and see.
    
    Regards,
    
    Greg
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: SQLDownUnderList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    [mailto:SQLDownUnderList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kent
    Tegels
    Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2005 10:21 AM
    To: SQLDownUnder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: [SQLDownUnder] SQL Server 2005 Express
    
    Well, no, its not quite that easy. While its true that you can deploy
    the database files via "xcopy," the engine itself must first be
    installed. Sadly, that's not just a DLL, but is the client and the .NET
    runtime too. The meat and bones get covered here:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnsse/html/sseoverview.asp?frame
    =true#sseover_topic12
    (watch for wrap).
    
    Now, on Licensing: the official stance is "SQL Server Express is free to
    use and redistribute. Please note that pre-release preview and beta
    software is for testing and evaluation purposes only, and should not be
    deployed for any other uses."
    [http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq#sqlexpress] Tom Rizzo
    recently added this: "Express Edition also gives partners the ability to
    embed a database into their applications at no cost to the partner.
    The Express Edition is free and completely redistributable."
    [http://www.microsoft.com/sql/spotlight/expandsqlserver.asp]
    
    Infer from that what you like. Of course, I'm going to encourage to talk
    to local MS licensing rep too, largely to see the eye light when they
    get to tell the same thing. :)
    
    Cheers,
    Kent Tegels
    
    <delurk>PS: And yes, I'm a Yank -- greetings from "Upover"... although
    the parts of it I'm in are more like our version of the "never-never..."
    When I saw Greg mention this list, I just had to subscribe... I was
    hoping to just lurk and watch the action, but since that's a question I
    get a lot, I thought 'avago at it.</delurk>
    
    
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