Re: [aus-dotnet] Adelaide

[Richard Mason]

In the case of our group I think we also build on each other's 
enthusiasm. The list of projects we have that have nothing to do with 
our actual PhDs is HUGE! In fact that's how Doug and my entrant to 
Imagine Cup started last year and how I started writing my own Wiki 
implementation. We're also continuously pointing out cool things to each 
other.
I'd like to back up what Greg said earlier about unis. In particular I 
agree that not everybody needs to go to uni and the pressure that was 
put on people in high school to go on to uni was just misleading. 
Personally though I'm very glad I did do uni and that I went on to my 
PhD (even though I'm likely to be looking for a straight development job 
when I finish next year...). I think I've learnt a lot more than simply 
how to cut code in uni - in fact most of my code cutting skills have 
been fostered in side projects rather than in uni subjects themselves. 
The concepts and more importantly how to go about learning about the 
concepts are something that I think uni has more opportunity to delve 
into than institutions like TAFE. Unfortunately, having spent some time 
as a tutor, most students don't see that. They just want to learn how to 
cut code, in which case I recommend going to TAFE and getting it done 
twice as fast :)
And in case your wondering, the subjects I've tutored have all been very 
practical based - a web programming subject where they learnt about 
various web technologies and did a sizable multi-tiered project in 
ASP.NET and a windows programming subject with once again a sizable 
practical project (based in MFC - this was a few years back) but also 
looking at other windows programming environments. These were 3rd/4th 
year subjects though - we assumed the students had learnt how to program 
and we were just teaching them some specific technologies which they 
really should have been able to figure out on their own if they needed to.
ciao, Richard
http://www.rikware.com/

RikWik: Goomburra - an alternate Open Source Wiki with some extras 
written entirely in C# - http://www.rikware.com/RikWik.html
Greg Low wrote:

> Depends upon the uni, what you're involved with and the type of job
> you're looking for.
>
> For example, the research groups that Prof John Gough's been running out
> of QUT have produced lots of outstanding post-grad .Net related work.
> Guys like Joel Pobar (now in the CLR team at Redmond - and often on this
> list <Hi Joel>) and the Cooney brothers (Dominic and Joseph), our very
> own man from "Team Doug" at the Imagine Cup plus Richard Mason, etc,
> etc. are testimony to that. But I think John's easily one of the top
> compiler writers in the world and has the rare gifts of being able to
> both explain it and get others enthused about it. That just doesn't
> happen everywhere. 
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
> Readify - Senior Consultant
> M: +61 419 201 410
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Prowse,
> David
> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 2:26 PM
> To: dotnet@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [aus-dotnet] Adelaide
>
> I must have went to the wrong university, I graduated & was left feeling
> that all I had achieved was a foot in the door of some initial entry
> level roles, TAFE IT courses are far more hands on than a uni degree & I
> think for an industry such as IT , hands on experience is far more
> valuable than theoretical knowledge!,
> Note: being a TAFE/DET employee has not skewed my view in any form, just
> stating some facts!
>
>
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